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Logistics & Export8 discussions

Which freight forwarders and airlines should we use for air freight of alcoholic beverages to Australia?

Air freight to Australia is expensive but viable for spirits and wine. Members have used and recommend the following forwarders and airline combinations: - **DHL** — confirmed able to handle alcoholic beverages to Australia. Members report they operate smoothly from Heathrow, though costs are high. - **Rohlig** — recommended by multiple members for international air freight of alcoholic products. One member previously used them for Mexico-to-UK shipments. - **Kerry Logistics** — used successfully for spirits (gin) to Taiwan with Turkish Airlines at approximately £2,000 per pallet. They also quoted Singapore Airlines at almost £4,000 per pallet for the same route, illustrating significant price variation by airline. **Pricing:** Expect £2,000–£5,000+ per pallet depending on the forwarder, airline, and exact routing. One member reported paying £5,000 per pallet through their usual forwarder from China to the UK. **Routing consideration:** Members suggest exploring a Singapore consolidation point as a potential cost-saving alternative to direct routes. **Caveat:** All members emphasised that air freight is "not cheap" and "eye wateringly expensive," so budget accordingly and compare quotes across forwarders and airlines, as pricing varies substantially.

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Logistics & Export8 discussions

What are the best hauliers and logistics providers for exporting pallets and containers from the UK to Europe, Australia, and beyond?

Members recommend a handful of specialist providers with proven track records on specific routes. **Europe (Germany & Switzerland):** - **Supplychain21** — frequently recommended with direct contact: richard.jones@supplychain21.com. Multiple members have used them successfully for pallets to Germany and Switzerland. Note: one member reported that prices have risen significantly this year and reliability has declined (recent shipments heavily delayed); another mentioned they quoted better pricing and shorter transit times than Supplychain21. - **Albatrans** — mentioned as an alternative option for European routes. - **Kerry Logistics** — suggested as another option for Europe. - **Hillebrand** — flagged as very expensive; members advise avoiding if possible as it pushes up landed costs. DHL has recently acquired Hillebrand. - **Wineflow** — quoted better prices and shorter transit times than Supplychain21 for some shipments, though was not accepting new business at the time of discussion (may have changed). - **DSV** — used successfully for a pallet to Germany at around £300, but does not ship alcohol. **Australia:** - Members have arranged groupage shipments with **Tudor Rose**. Contact: Louis can provide introductions and group shipments with other brands (Pinkster mentioned). **Container export (20ft):** - **Supplychain21** — members sense-check quotes against them. - **Uni Express** — recommended as an alternative. - **Wineflow** — noted as normally cheaper than Supplychain21 for container freight. **Caveats:** Members note that European pricing and reliability have become unpredictable (Supplychain21 in particular has faced delays). Always get multiple quotes and consider groupage to reduce costs.

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Logistics & Export4 discussions

What are the best logistics providers and strategies for shipping spirits samples internationally, particularly to Australia and Malaysia?

Members recommend DHL as a reliable carrier for international sample shipping. Beyond commercial couriers, the community suggests leveraging your network—asking if anyone in your circle is travelling to your target market soon and willing to hand-carry samples, as this can bypass some regulatory friction with spirits shipments to restricted markets like Malaysia. Specific options mentioned: - **DHL** — used by members for international sample shipping with good results. - **Hand-carry via network** — asking connections travelling to Australia or Malaysia to transport samples on your behalf, avoiding carrier restrictions on alcohol. Caveats: Members note that "all the usual carriers" present challenges for shipping spirits samples to Malaysia in particular, suggesting regulatory or compliance barriers that standard logistics providers face. Hand-carry may be the most practical route for difficult destinations.

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Logistics & Export4 discussions

What does it mean for a supplier to be registered as a bonded supplier when importing to Australia, and who is responsible for the registration?

When importing to Australia, bonded warehouse registration is typically the responsibility of the **importing/receiving party**, not the exporting supplier. The importer—whether a distributor, retailer, or their logistics partner—should be the entity with the bonded warehouse licence and responsible for any associated paperwork. **Key points from community experience:** - The receiving importer needs to have a bonded warehouse; they should handle the necessary paperwork themselves - If you're exporting on standard incoterms (e.g. FOB), the responsibility sits with the importer on the Australian side - If a major retailer like Coles is requesting that goods be "bonded," this may indicate they lack bonded warehouse capacity themselves—but members noted this "doesn't sound right" and warrants clarification - Confirm with your importer exactly what incoterms you've agreed, as this determines who bears responsibility for customs and bonded-warehouse arrangements **Caveat:** This guidance is based on standard export practice; if a customer is making unusual requests, verify directly with your Australian customs broker or importer rather than assuming standard responsibility allocation.

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Logistics & Export3 discussions

What are the most practical and cost-effective ways to ship samples to Australia?

Members report several working approaches for getting samples to Australia, though all face significant cost and regulatory friction. **Informal/personal methods:** - **Hand-carry on flights** — the preferred route several members use; minimal bureaucracy and no shipping delays. - **Personal orders via retailers** — ordering your own product through platforms like Master of Malt and shipping to an importer or friend in Australia has worked without issues for members. **Commercial shipping:** - **DHL with "samples – not for resale" marking** — members use this route, though it requires paying premium rates for the service. **Import consolidation:** - **Inoka's import consolidation service** — a contact who can help brands import under her own licence, accepting half pallets or consolidated pallets. She is currently winding down some activities but remains willing to advise and make connections. **Key caveat:** Duty and tax on small-scale shipments to Australia make it very difficult to remain price-competitive. Members emphasize that the economics favour larger consolidated shipments over single small samples.

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Logistics & Export3 discussions

What are the specific label requirements for exporting spirits to Australia, and can I use existing UK labels?

You cannot use existing UK labels for Australia—relabelling or overstickling is mandatory due to Australia's distinct labelling requirements. **Key requirements members identified:** - Compliance with **Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ)** and **NSW Food Authority** standards (reference: https://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/food-labelling/how-read-label/alcohol) - Different unit calculations than the UK - Your Australian importer's name must appear on the label - Mandatory health warnings, including pregnancy warnings and specific imagery **What this means in practice:** Members recommend treating Australian labels as a separate project—either relabel stock before shipment or oversticker existing UK stock. You'll need to work with your Australian importer to ensure all required elements (their company details, health warnings, unit conversions) are correctly incorporated before the product reaches market.

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Logistics & Export2 discussions

What are the practical, budget-conscious strategies for launching spirits in international markets like Australia, China and South Korea?

Launching in new international markets on a tight budget requires creative logistics and strong local partnerships. The key challenge is duty, tax and import complexity—especially in Australia—which makes small-scale direct sales uncompetitive. **Sample shipping strategies:** - **DHL** — members have used this for samples; mark shipments 'samples - not for re-sale' to reduce duties. Expect to pay a premium for this route. - **Personal ordering** — one member ordered their own product via **Master of Malt** and sent to their importer without issues. A contact in Australia also ordered personally with no problems. - **Hand-carry by travellers** — the simplest and cheapest option if you have someone travelling to the market. **Import partnerships:** - **Inoka** — a contact experienced in helping brands with imports under her own licence; open to half pallets or consolidated pallets. Members recommend requesting an introduction if interested. **Key caveat:** Duty and tax in Australia make it very difficult to be competitive at small scale. Rather than trying to handle logistics solo, members stress the importance of finding an established import partner who can consolidate shipments and navigate the regulatory burden. Direct-to-consumer or small merchant routes are typically not viable without absorbing significant landed costs.

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