Ask the Collective
The questions independent drinks founders ask most — answered. Distilled from years of community knowledge so the good stuff never disappears in the feed again.
What quality issues should we be aware of when sourcing glass bottles from Chinese suppliers?
Members report consistent quality problems with Chinese glass suppliers that require careful vetting. **Greasy bottles** are a frequent issue—several members experienced bottles arriving with a greasy residue requiring machine washing before use. **Inconsistent neck sizes** is another documented problem, leading to leaking bottles when caps or stoppers don't fit properly. **Poor stopper quality** has also been noted alongside the bottle defects. Members have identified some Chinese suppliers worth investigating or avoiding: - **Xuzhou Moaya Glass** — used by at least one member; experienced the greasy bottle and poor stopper issues mentioned above - **Xilong, Rockwood, and Fusion** — mentioned in prior community research on Chinese glass suppliers - **Rawlings and Couch** — one member asked for feedback and contact details, suggesting this supplier was being evaluated The consensus is that success stories do exist with Chinese suppliers, so reliable options are out there, but thorough supplier vetting is essential to eliminate unreliable ones from your shortlist. Members recommend checking references and samples carefully before committing to larger orders.
What are the realistic alternatives for glass bottle sourcing when major suppliers have stock issues or poor service?
Members report widespread stock shortages across major UK glass suppliers due to supply-chain disruption (including reduced production from Eastern European factories). Going bespoke is not a fast solution despite initial appearances. **UK stock suppliers:** - **Croxsons** — recommended as an off-the-shelf stock bottle source - **Allied** — another off-the-shelf option to approach when stock is tight - **Encirc** — mentioned but noted as primarily a bespoke/custom manufacturer, so may not solve immediate stock problems **China sourcing (not recommended):** Several members have tested Chinese glass imports as a backup but advise against it. Common issues include: heavy oily residue on bottles requiring machine washing before bottling, inconsistent quality control (fill levels, neck diameter variance), delayed shipping, and slow transit to UK. Cost savings are typically wiped out by necessary air freight to meet timelines. Members who tried this approach have since switched back to UK-only production. **Key caveat:** Major suppliers like Bruni and Savaglass are currently experiencing significant shortages and not being transparent about supply constraints. Members report these suppliers are rationing stock while trying to retain business relationships long-term.